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Ladies and gentlemen what's going on my name is Media Guy Doug and welcome back to the punishers paintball Channel. Today, I just wanted to do a little kind of geo history review. I'm only going as far back as the Geo 3.5 because I personally think the 3.5 and the R5 have been some of the most influential guns in paintball in recent history. You never hear people stop talking about them. Joel might have some opinions so he will weigh in. We're just going to shoot themm and kind of talk about them and just kind of hang out. We just wanted to do something a little more casual today.
Alright Joel so I think the 3.5 was the gun that people didn't shut up about until the R5 came out. I don't think that the Geo 4 quite made the same impression as the Geo 3.5. Now we have the Geo R5 which seems to have been more well received as compared to the Geo 4.
The Geo 4 was definitely an advancement from the Geo 3.5 don't get me wrong. It got rid of the ATP pipe, better barrel, toolless battery, and toolless eye covers. The Geo 4 and Geo R5 also take AA batteries as compared to the 9V battery of the Geo 3.5 which makes it easier to supply batteries since most loaders take AA batteries as well. You also had the cs1 right in between the Geo 3.5 and Geo 4 which offered the same IV Core bolt system as well.
The Geo 4 is the previous model to the Geo R5 so we figured we had to throw it in this conversation.
I think the big thing that we need to talk about Doug is like all the different features of the new R5 as compared to the 3.5. You know the Geo 3.5 had the ATP pipe obviously that's the number one thing. It also was a lot smaller of a gun than the R5. The R5 is a much longer of gun which helps with ergonomics and snap shooting. The Geo 3.5 also had problems with the solenoid failing over a few hundred thousand shots and the Geo 3.5 solenoid is not serviceable. The new Geo R5 solenoid is rebuildable which eliminates issues with having to replace the solenoid (unless the solenoid pilot itself fails).
Ergonomics on the Geo 3.5, Geo 4, and now the Geo R5 have significantly changed. While Joel likes the more elongated feel of the R5, Doug likes the .45 style grip of the Geo 3.5 better. The Geo 3.5 is a smaller marker which suits Doug better who is used to shooting a Shocker Era. Overall, Doug still likes the more modern feel of the Geo R5 better than the 3.5 or the Geo 4.
The Geo R5 also has the more reliable reflective eye system in it as well as the better S63 3 piece barrel system with it.
It's been years since we've shot a 3.5 and to be fair Planet Eclipse specifically has a problem with us comparing older models because it's not fair since it's something old. We're just doing this video for the fun of it because of the popularity of these markers.
So after shooting both markers, the Geo R5 is definitely smoother and feels better with the elongated feel. Doug is also a fan of the CS style trigger of the Geo R5. Don't get us wrong, the Geo 3.5 shoots great for being almost a 10 year old marker but it seems almost like a poppy shot compared to the R5.
Overall, it's night and day between these 2 markers. The more modern updates of the R5 (eye system, barrel system, electronics, etc.) along with the smoother shot really makes the R5 feel like a premium gun compared to the Geo 3.5. However, the Geo 3.5 definitely has it's place in paintball history. I heard someone this past week at NXL World Cup say that if they could shoot any old gun it'd be their 3.5. That gun just made an impression. So now the questions becomes if the Geo R5 will be that legendary gun in 10 years from now. We think it will be 100%!!
So we definitely feel for those of you that might have something like this and you're wondering if is worth it to upgrade... yes it is!
That's why we like doing videos like this despite I don't know you said Planet isn't a fan of doing old versus new. Well, Planet you've backed yourself into a corner by making good stuff that lasts a long time so you have this problem where people are like well I don't need to update.
Something to mention, however, is that Joel has never been a big Geo 3.5 fan. He's the weird person out of this because of the solenoid. Why buy a $500- $1,000 gun that you got to put $160 part in and now the solenoids are no longer a thing. So you can only get what's left on the aftermarket and then your toast.
There are people out there who have multiple Geo 3.1's or Geo 3.5's who are trying to keep them alive by salvaging parts from them to keep others running. Now, with the Geo R5 you can have that super soft shooting marker along with the modern features and reliability of not potentially having to replace a solenoid.
Moving on to the Geo 4, there are still quite a few differences between the Geo 4 and the R5. The R5 has the breech sensor lightpipes as compared to the eye cable of the Geo 4. The reflective eye system has been more reliable than the cable system of the Geo 4 which was prone to being pinched OR the eyes shifting due to the eye wires being pulled when the eye covers were placed on the marker during maintenance. This could cause an eye fault with the Geo 4.
Moving on, the Geo R5 also has the S63 3 piece barrel system and newer/better electronics compared to the Geo 4. The Geo 4 also had the solenoid at the front of the marker whereas Planet Eclipse has moved the position of the R5 solenoid to the trigger frame. This allows more linear air flow straight up to the body of the gun where on the Geo 4 the air moved through the trigger guard which could cause turbulent air flow and cause the marker to potentially squeak with higher output paintball tanks.
The SFR isn't as easy to adjust in the Geo R5 because you have to remove the grips as compared to the Geo 4. But the overall shot quality of the Geo R5 is much better than the Geo 4. The R5 also has the brass and stainless steel SFR's which allows for more tunability as compared to the Geo 4 which only had a single SFR.
As you can see, theres a lot of ways in which the Geo R5 has improved from it's predecessors. Don't get us wrong, the Geo 3.5 and Geo 4 are both great markers and are great used marker options. However, we feel that the R5 is a significant improvement from both these older markers and is WORTH the upgrade. We think that the R5 will cement it's place in paintball marker history within the next 10 years due to it's modern features, great reliability, and insanely smooth shot!
